Posted by Alan Knox on Apr 26, 2010
Original article here
Me: Jesus, I want to be a church leader.
Jesus: That’s good.
Me: Thanks. I’ve been talking to other people about it, and I’ve gotten some good advice.
Jesus: Such as?
Me: Well, I’ve been told that I should find a leadership position, like a Sunday School
teacher, or a ministry director, or something like that, and start getting experience being a
leader. Then, I should consider going to seminary, because that’s where I’ll really learn what
it means to be a leader. After seminary, I can find a position in a church somewhere and
really start leading.
Jesus: Oh? And what do you think about that?
Me: Well, it sounds good. I mean, everyone I talked to did it that way, and it seems to have
worked for them. But, I was wondering what you thought.
Jesus: Interesting. I don’t usually get asked this question until after the plan is in motion.
Me: What do you mean?
Jesus: Well, I often get requests from people who are already considered leaders, but I’m not
often asked what it means to be a leader in the first place.
Me: Oh. Well, what do you think I should do to be a leader in the church?
Jesus: Serve.
Me: I don’t know much about tennis.
Jesus: No, not tennis. Serve people.
Me: Oh, you mean like “servant leadership”?
Jesus: No, I mean serve people. If I give you an opportunity to serve someone, then do it.
Me: Oh. You’re talking about actually serving people.
Jesus: Yes.
Me: I’m asking you about leadership, though. You know, teaching, making decisions,
presenting a vision – your vision, of course – that kind of thing.
Jesus: If that’s what you want, then fine. But, you asked me what I wanted. And, I want you
to serve.
Me: What about seminary? Shouldn’t church leaders go to seminary?
Jesus: Seminary – or any other type of education – is fine. It can be very helpful. But, I want
you to serve people, whether you go to seminary or not.
Me: But, will people appoint me to a leadership position without a seminary degree?
Jesus: I don’t know. Maybe not. Do you want a leadership position, or do you want to know
what I expect of leaders?
Me: Well, I guess I want to know what you expect of leaders.
Jesus: Then, I want you to serve. When I bring someone into your life, I want you to give up
your own wants, desires, hopes, even needs in order to take care of them. If they need food,
then feed them. If they need something to drink, then give it to them. If they’re sick, then take
care of them. I want you to serve.
Me: But, that’s not really leading, is it?
Jesus: That’s exactly what I call leading. In fact, the more you serve, the greater the leader
you will be.
Me: But, how is that leadership?
Jesus: I want you to serve, and I want others to serve as well. As people see you serve, they
will serve. You will lead them in how to serve as you all serve together.
Me: You know, that’s not really what I was talking about.
Jesus: Yes, I know.
Me: The advice that the other people gave me sounds better.
Jesus: Yes, I know.
Me: If I become the other type of leader, people will follow me then too.
Jesus: Yes, I know.
Me: But, you want me – and others – to serve people?
Jesus: Yes.
Me: Are there any good books that will help me understand what you’re talking about?
Jesus: I’ve always been partial to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts,… well, you get the
picture.
Me: Yeah, I think I do.
Jesus: Paul is a great example of service. Do you know how much he gave up in order to
serve people?
Me: Well, I haven’t really read it that way.
Jesus: Maybe you should try…
Me: I’ll think about it.
Jesus: I hope you do.